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| ElectroBoy | 02-05-2020 02:18 AM |
Which Mobil oil?
Well, according to the poll numbers, Mobil is the preferred oil by the majority.
But which Mobil oil?
There are at least seven 0w-20 products to choose from:
ESP X2 0W-20,
Annual Protection 0W-20,
Extended Performance 0W-20,
Advanced Fuel Economy 0W-20,
Truck & SUV 0W-20,
Extended Performance High Mileage 0W-20,
High Mileage 0W-20
??
| Hammer0313 | 02-05-2020 10:34 AM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by ElectroBoy(Post 3436667)
Well, according to the poll numbers, Mobil is the preferred oil by the majority.
But which Mobil oil?
There are at least seven 0w-20 products to choose from:
ESP X2 0W-20,
Annual Protection 0W-20,
Extended Performance 0W-20,
Advanced Fuel Economy 0W-20,
Truck & SUV 0W-20,
Extended Performance High Mileage 0W-20,
High Mileage 0W-20
??
When i was making this thread i tried to brake down the oils by the different formulas but the Poll only allows 15 different options, so thats what we got.
| Nick B | 02-05-2020 10:46 AM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by ElectroBoy(Post 3436667)
Well, according to the poll numbers, Mobil is the preferred oil by the majority.
But which Mobil oil?
There are at least seven 0w-20 products to choose from:
ESP X2 0W-20,
Annual Protection 0W-20,
Extended Performance 0W-20,
Advanced Fuel Economy 0W-20,
Truck & SUV 0W-20,
Extended Performance High Mileage 0W-20,
High Mileage 0W-20
??
Id like to know the answer to this myself.
| Hammer0313 | 02-05-2020 10:54 AM |
One thing that has always bothered me about the Oil Data Sheets is they only give you 100C/212F and 40C/104F for reference, but that tells you nothing about the cold climate characteristics. So, I got some interesting info using the online viscosity calculator. Just for fun i ran the Toyota 0w20 from -50 degrees Fahrenheit to 260 degrees Fahrenheite in values of 20 degrees.
You can do this with any oil if you have the 110C and 40C values off the oil data sheet, all you need to convert the Celsius to Fahrenheit. Online calculator link will be at the bottom.
TOYOTA 0W20 cSt VALUES FROM -50F TO 260F
-50F = 5736.96
-30F = 1969.91
-10F = 803.09
0 F = 539.1
20F = 267.67
40F = 147.73
60F = 88.05
80F = 56.18
100F = 37.93
120F = 26.84
140F = 19.72
160F = 15.02
180F = 11.77
200F = 9.45
220F = 7.74
240F = 6.46
260F = 5.48
If you compare the 20 weight oils and the 30 weight oils using this viscosity calculator at cold or extremely cold climates you can clearly see the advantages of the 20's in cold climates.
Calculate viscosity at given temperature | Nimac Great Britain
| catrains | 02-05-2020 11:00 AM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by ElectroBoy(Post 3436667)
Well, according to the poll numbers, Mobil is the preferred oil by the majority.
But which Mobil oil? 0W-20WT
well most use Mobil 1 0-20wt advanced .. this is the oil I used for 3 years on my 2016 runner. many had a engine ticking issue on cold starts.
mobil oil does not have the additives compared to toyota 0-20WT SN PLUS. SN PLUS HAS MOLYBDENUM ..............
my engine now has very little noise on a cold start only a exhaust noise .this Toyota oil is a bit expensive $7.30 a qt... Mobil 1 I only pay 5qts for $28... much cheaper.
the Toyota oil got me a extra 1-2 MPG .. it works better than mobil...........
edit: looks like Mobil now has a Mobil Super Synthetic 0-20wt .. has SN PLUS.. I do not have the lab test on this oil.. this qt cost is $8.00 ...............
| Jivewalker | 02-05-2020 11:51 AM |
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Originally Posted by catrains(Post 3436764)
.this Toyota oil is a bit expensive $7.30 a qt... Mobil 1 I only pay 5qts for $28... much cheaper.
I was able to talk my dealer parts counter into around $6.20.Qt., I usually buy 14 at a time. You may be able to do the same. I like the TGMO.
| Dynamo | 02-05-2020 12:11 PM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jivewalker(Post 3436789)
I was able to talk my dealer parts counter into around $6.20.Qt., I usually buy 14 at a time. You may be able to do the same. I like the TGMO.
$4.83 per quart at my dealer when bought through their online parts site. They do ship though I just pick it up to save on shipping.
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| Hammer0313 | 02-06-2020 03:12 PM |
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If you live in cold / extremely cold climates this is something you need to see; the numbers dont lie. Toyota 0w20 cold flow characteristics are Far Superior to the other oils, by a huge amount. And on the top end at 250 degrees Fahrenheit is was right there with the rest. So if you prefer 0w20 and live up north, Toyota 0w20 full synthetic is a really good option. It has a superior service range in the 0w20 category.
| ElectroBoy | 02-06-2020 03:44 PM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hammer0313(Post 3437797)
If you live in cold / extremely cold climates this is something you need to see; the numbers dont lie. Toyota 0w20 cold flow characteristics are Far Superior to the other oils, by a huge amount. And on the top end at 250 degrees Fahrenheit is was right there with the rest. So if you prefer 0w20 and live up north, Toyota 0w20 full synthetic is a really good option. It has a superior service range in the 0w20 category.
Very interesting, thanks for that info. Those 0W20 motor oils listed all performed about the same at the high temps.
Have you seen any chart data for how they performed at high temps as compared to a 0W30, such as Amsoil?
| Hammer0313 | 02-06-2020 03:50 PM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by ElectroBoy(Post 3437825)
Very interesting, thanks for that info. Those 0W20 motor oils listed all performed about the same at the high temps.
Have you seen any chart data for how they performed at high temps as compared to a 0W30, such as Amsoil?
I can calculate any oils you want, up to any temperature you want just let me know. Just give me a day and i can get it done.
| ElectroBoy | 02-06-2020 04:19 PM |
Heres an interesting article. Not sure if it was posted already.
What is the difference between engine oils 0w-30, 5w-30, 10w-30? - Quora
| SaguarGo | 02-06-2020 04:25 PM |
The best oil is free oil. YAWIA.
| wesrick | 02-06-2020 06:59 PM |
I've always used Mobile 1 when I change it, along with the extended life filter from wal-mart.
There is a youtube channel called 'project farm' where a guy tests different oils. Apparently Mobile1 and Amazon basics (which I don't see on the list and didn't know existed) performed about the same as Mobile 1. Crazy.
| 2016 4Runner SR5 | 02-06-2020 07:11 PM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by wesrick(Post 3437990)
I've always used Mobile 1 when I change it, along with the extended life filter from wal-mart.
There is a youtube channel called 'project farm' where a guy tests different oils. Apparently Mobile1 and Amazon basics (which I don't see on the list and didn't know existed) performed about the same as Mobile 1. Crazy.
Same goes for supertech from Walmart. Both Amazon and Walmart oils are made by the same company. In all honesty, looking at real data, Mobil 1 is really nothing special. There are better oils out there, people just keep using M1 because they think it's the best. Toyota oil is a better option than M1 and the 4.0 runs quieter with it.
| Hammer0313 | 02-07-2020 08:23 AM |
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Originally Posted by 2016 4Runner SR5(Post 3438003)
Same goes for supertech from Walmart. Both Amazon and Walmart oils are made by the same company. In all honesty, looking at real data, Mobil 1 is really nothing special. There are better oils out there, people just keep using M1 because they think it's the best. Toyota oil is a better option than M1 and the 4.0 runs quieter with it.
The service range of the Toyota 0w20 is far superior to the other 0w20 oils i looked at; take a look at the attachment. At -20 degrees Fahrenheit the Toyota oil is shockingly far better, and on the top end at 250 degree Fahrenheit its right there with the rest. Fantastic service range!
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The 4th generation 4runner is larger and more powerful. It's better for towing and some people consider it more comfortable. The 3rd generation 4runner is slightly smaller and more nimble.
Are some 4runners bigger than others? ›The 4th generation 4runner is larger and more powerful. It's better for towing and some people consider it more comfortable. The 3rd generation 4runner is slightly smaller and more nimble.
What is 4runners biggest competitor? ›Some of the main competitors to the Toyota 4Runner include the Jeep Wrangler, Ford Bronco, Jeep Grand Cherokee, and Chevrolet Tahoe.
Which is larger a Toyota 4Runner or Highlander? ›2023 Toyota Highlander Limited
The 2023 Toyota 4Runner can seat up to seven with an optional third row, but the classic 4Runner is a 5-passenger vehicle. The third row is best suited for children. The 4Runner is shorter than the Highlander in overall length, and it delivers less interior space.
The rear legroom offers up to 32.9 inches. Coming to the cargo space, you could pack the family up for a trip for a week's vacation with a few suitcases with room to spare. With the seats up in the trunk the 4Runner offers up to 47.2 cubic feet of space. With the seats down, it increases to 89.7 cubic feet.
When did the 4Runner get bigger? ›1992–2001 4Runner
Changes in this generation included an all-new body on an all-new chassis. With a larger body on a longer wheelbase, larger cargo area, more cabin space and more aerodynamic styling, this 4Runner shared little with the pickup truck from which the nameplate originated.
If you're looking for a robust SUV to hit the roads of Larchmont, New Rochelle, and Yonkers, New York, then two popular vehicles may come to mind: the 2021 Lexus GX 460 and the Toyota 4Runner. Both vehicles are coveted for their powerful performance and compelling design.
What is as good as a 4Runner? ›The Honda Passport is an unexpected yet excellent alternative to the Toyota 4Runner. It has an excellent engine and plenty of room inside for passengers and cargo. Although it's similar to many other options on the market, it's a worthy competitor.
Why is there a shortage of Toyota 4Runners? ›Dealers have low inventory due to the chip shortage and supply chain issues, which creates incredible demand for popular models like the 4Runner and Tacoma — some of the best-selling vehicles in their segments.
What SUVs compete with 4Runner? ›- 2023 Toyota 4Runner. #21 in Mid-Size SUVs.
- 2022 Ford Bronco.
- 2022 Honda Passport.
- 2022 Jeep Wrangler.
- 2022 Subaru Outback.
- 2022 Toyota Tacoma.
Is Toyota 4Runner bigger than Sequoia? ›
The 4Runner offers a max of 88.8 cubic feet of cargo volume compared to the max 86.9 cubic feet inside the Sequoia. Heated and ventilated front seats are available for both models but only the Sequoia offers them for the rear second row seats as well.
What vehicles are same size as 4Runner? ›- Jeep Wrangler. Starting price: $31,590 to $81,190. ...
- Ford Bronco. Starting price: $32,395 to $54,545. ...
- Subaru Outback. Starting price: $28,820 to $41,070. ...
- Kia Telluride. ...
- Jeep Grand Cherokee. ...
- Nissan Pathfinder. ...
- Honda Passport. ...
- Ford Explorer.
But the downsides are that the 4Runner is heavier, less space-efficient, and doesn't ride or handle as well as a vehicle with unibody construction. That's what the Forester has. The Forester is a little smaller on the inside, but it's a lot smaller on the outside: about 10 inches shorter and 3 inches lower.
Is a 4Runner a good daily driver? ›Do-it-all nature. For such a hardcore, offroad adventure vehicle, the TRD Pro 4Runner sure makes a great daily driver. It tracks super straight, is easy to drive and park, and is extremely versatile and practical in its applications.
Does a 4Runner have more room than RAV4? ›The 2022 Toyota RAV4 dimensions measure 181-182″ L x 73″ W x 67-69″ H, while the 4Runner is larger with measurements of 190-191″ L x 76″ W x 72″ H.
Is a 4Runner a dad car? ›Gear Patrol even agrees that the Toyota 4Runner is peak dad; practical, reliable, and cinder-block shaped. Not only can you easily fit five people, but you can fit gear for days. You got strollers, carriers, diaper bags, breast pump, and whatever else the critters need, you can fit it in a 4Runner.
Is 4Runner bigger than Bronco? ›The Toyota 4Runner comes only in a 4-door body style with 5-passenger seating and a conventional fixed roof. It's about the same length as the 4-door Ford Bronco but rides on a much shorter 110-inch wheelbase. This results in less overall passenger room but more cargo capacity.
Is 4Runner bigger than Land Cruiser? ›Appearance. While at first glance the 2021 4Runner and the 2021 Land Cruiser look very similar, once you take a good look, you'll notice that the Land Cruiser is taller, wider, and longer than the 4Runner.
What does the SR5 stand for on the 4Runner? ›With this vehicle, you get both off-road prowess and a vehicle that can handle heavy-city traffic in one vehicle. One of the most popular 4Runner trims is the Toyota 4Runner SR5, but not many of our Washington customers know what SR5 means. It stands for Sport Rally 5.
Is a Lexus a higher end Toyota? ›Lexus's parent company is Toyota, and the brand exists to offer a line of more luxury vehicles compared with Toyota's more utilitarian offering. That means that Lexus and Toyota have a lot of similarities in design and construction, but that Lexus vehicles tend to have higher-end components and a more expensive design.
Is a 4Runner bigger than Lexus GX? ›
Passenger Space Comparison. While both models are midsize SUVs, the Toyota 4Runner has the advantage of offering more interior volume, reflected in more front head room, front shoulder room, rear shoulder room, and cargo space. The Lexus GX 460 has the advantage in the areas of rear head room and rear leg room.
What Lexus is built on the 4Runner platform? ›The Lexus GX460 Is a Luxury Brute with a Knack for Off-Road Adventures. The aging but capable Toyota 4Runner platform makes for a serious luxury off-roader. The Lexus GX is the company's second largest SUV after the LX.
Is 4Runner V8 better than V6? ›The V6 is more fuel-efficient and requires slightly less maintenance while the V8 is smoother and offers better performance. You can't go wrong with either – it all depends on how you use your 4runner.
Are used 4runners in high demand? ›The 4Runner has an excellent reputation for durability, reliability and longevity. It's a solid machine with impressive off-road chops. As such, even high-mileage models are in high demand, which pushes the price up.
Does the 4Runner ride like a truck? ›The 4runner is still very truck-like because of its body on frame design. Most crossovers that are marketed as adventure vehicles nowadays are unibody designs. The 4runner's frame might make it ride rougher and have less headroom, but it also allows it to tow a decent amount of weight quite well.
Why are 4Runners so expensive right now? ›Its off-roading capabilites are limited. The 4Runner costs a bit more to produce, but it also commands a higher price because people who need a real off-road SUV are willing to pay more for it.
Are all 4Runners made in Japan? ›...
| Toyota 4Runner | |
|---|---|
| Manufacturer | Toyota |
| Also called | Toyota Hilux Surf (Japan, 1983–2009) |
| Production | October 1983 – present |
| Model years | 1984–present (US) |
It also seems that the popularity of the vehicle is growing. Toyota has seen a steady increase in sales for the 4Runner since it debuted in 1984. The 2021 model year had the highest sales yet with the Japanese automaker selling over 144,000 units.
Should I buy a RAV4 or 4Runner? ›Overall the Toyota 4Runner offers more available power and space, but the Toyota RAV4 offers better fuel economy while still providing excellent performance capabilities. Read the 2021 Toyota 4Runner vs RAV4 comparison below, then contact the team at Jim Hudson Toyota to take both models out for a test drive.
Is the Toyota 4Runner the most reliable SUV? ›According to repairpal.com, the Toyota 4Runner comes in at ⅘ in reliability, making it above average. It ranks 9th out of 26 when compared to other midsize SUVs. The annual repair cost of a Toyota 4Runner is $514, lower than average for an owner.
Do Toyota 4runners have frame problems? ›
The excessive rust corrosion of the frame of a Toyota 4Runner greatly hinders the safety, crash-worthiness, and stability of the automobile, as transmission mounts, essential suspension components, and engine mounts are attached to it.
What is Toyota most biggest SUV? ›If you're in the market for a full-sized SUV, look no further than the Toyota Sequoia. Currently Toyota's largest SUV, this vehicle demands a powerful presence no matter where you travel or what you bring. The Sequoia is available in five trim grades, including SR5, Limited, Platinum, TRD Pro, and Capstone.
Which is bigger Tahoe or 4Runner? ›Therefore, when looking for a vehicle, you need to ensure it was built to handle whatever you throw at it. As you can see, the 4Runner is smaller than the Tahoe, which is perfect for maneuvering with greater ease and grace on tight off-road trails.
Is a 4Runner bigger than an atlas? ›The 2021 Atlas is spacious in every row, including the third row. Even adults can fit comfortable in the far back. On top of that, the 2021 Atlas has a whopping 96.8 cu-ft of cargo space with all the seats down. The 2021 4Runner tops out at 89.7 cu-ft.
Is a 4Runner a midsize or full size SUV? ›Toyota 4Runner models. The 2023 Toyota 4Runner is a midsize SUV available in eight trim levels: SR5, TRD Sport, SR5 Premium, TRD Off-Road, TRD Off-Road Premium, 40th Anniversary Special Edition, Limited and TRD Pro.
Does 4Runner have more cargo space than Highlander? ›Every Highlander comes with a third row, which is optional on the 4Runner. Adding one to the truck-based SUV cuts cargo space down to nine cubic feet—much smaller than the Highlander's 16-cube hold. Fold that row down, though, and the margin narrows, with the Highlander offering 48 cubic feet to the 4Runner's 46.
Is a 4Runner bigger than a Durango? ›The Dodge Durango is about the same width as the Toyota 4Runner. For some people, bigger is better. If that's the case for you, then you'll be happier with the Dodge Durango, which is slightly longer than the Toyota 4Runner.
Is 4Runner bigger than Telluride? ›Since the Kia Telluride is much wider than the Toyota 4Runner, finding a wide enough spot in a parking lot may be a bit more challenging. For some people, bigger is better. If that's the case for you, then you'll be happier with the Kia Telluride, which is slightly longer than the Toyota 4Runner.
Is a Toyota 4Runner a large SUV? ›The 4Runner is on the larger end of the mid-size SUV segment, but your brother is right—the 4Runner is not a full-size SUV.
Is a 4Runner bigger than an equinox? ›The Toyota 4Runner has 47.2 cubic feet of cargo volume behind both rows of seating. This can be expanded to 89.7 cubic feet when the second row of seating is folded, maximizing your capacity. The Chevy Equinox has 29.9 cubic feet behind both rows of seating that can be expanded to 63.9 cubic feet.
Is 4Runner comfortable for long road trip? ›
Legroom That Goes On Forever
I am not sure I have ever seen my 6'2” husband ever sit so comfortably in a passenger seat before. While the 4Runner is meant for adventure, the inside feels luxurious with comfortable, easy-to-clean leather seating.
A Toyota 4Runner can reach 300,000 miles with meticulous maintenance but expect closer to 200,000 miles. The 4Runner is susceptible to Toyota's rust issues. Owners say rust and corrosion are common, and noticeable after only a few years on the road.
Is 4Runner underpowered? ›The 4-liter V6 serves up 270-hp and 278 torques but feels underpowered with the 4Runner's hefty curb weight. The transmission is an ancient 5-speed automatic, which doesn't do any favors for the 4Runner's 18 mpg combined fuel economy rating in either two- or four-wheel drive models.
Which Toyota SUV is the roomiest? ›The Toyota vehicle with the most cargo space is the 2021 Toyota Sequoia SUV, which has up to 120.1 cubic feet of cargo space. The Toyota vehicles with the next most space is the 2021 Toyota Sienna, followed by the 4Runner, Highlander and RAV4.
Is the 4Runner spacious? ›The 2022 Toyota 4Runner can also accommodate large or bulky cargo with a maximum cargo volume of 89.7 cubic feet and a sliding rear cargo deck with an under-floor storage compartment.
Will a 4Runner flip? ›Toyota 4-Runner Rollover Accidents
Toyota has even admitted that the 4Runner is prone to rollovers on dry flat surfaces.
Love mine around town and short highway trips, but yeah compared to the Sienna we had before and even the Pilot we have currently, the 4Runner is a bit cramped. But it wasn't designed to be a passenger hauler.
Why did Toyota name the 4Runner? ›The SUV market was still young. In part, the name “4Runner” indicated its role as a harbinger of a new vehicle style. It was one that would combine the go-anywhere versatility of four-wheel drive with the comforts of a passenger car.
How many different types of 4runners are there? ›The 4Runner is offered in eight trim levels at dealerships like the Toyota dealership serving Meridian: SR5, Trail Special Edition, TRD Sport, SR5 Premium, TRD Off-Road, TRD Off-Road Premium, Limited and TRD Pro.
What does SR5 mean on 4Runner? ›With this vehicle, you get both off-road prowess and a vehicle that can handle heavy-city traffic in one vehicle. One of the most popular 4Runner trims is the Toyota 4Runner SR5, but not many of our Washington customers know what SR5 means. It stands for Sport Rally 5.
Is a 4Runner a midsize or full-size SUV? ›
Toyota 4Runner models. The 2023 Toyota 4Runner is a midsize SUV available in eight trim levels: SR5, TRD Sport, SR5 Premium, TRD Off-Road, TRD Off-Road Premium, 40th Anniversary Special Edition, Limited and TRD Pro.
Is a 4Runner a small or large SUV? ›Now, the 2022 Toyota 4Runner is considered a full-size SUV and is a great option for drivers looking for a family vehicle that will hold a lot of passengers.
Which 4Runner is top of the line? ›2022 4Runner TRD Pro
If you want the ultimate experience from all the Toyota 4Runner configurations, then the 4Runner TRD Pro is the vehicle for you. Experience top-of-the-line luxury and capability with this off-road and commute-ready 4Runner trim option: $52,420 MSRP*
Simply put, SR5 stands for “Sport Rally 5” or “Sports Runabout 5,” depending on who you ask. The “5” was originally meant to signify a 5-speed manual transmission.
What is the highest model of Toyota 4Runner? ›Highest trim: The 2021 4Runner TRD Pro Offers The Ultimate Luxury In A Toyota.
Which is better TRD or SR5? ›The TRD Sport boasts more towing power—6,800 pounds compared to 3,500 on the SR5—but the SR5 is capable of carrying more payload, at 1,685 pounds compared to 1,525 pounds on the TRD Sport.
Is the TRD Sport worth it over the SR5? ›2023 Toyota Tacoma TRD Sport: Starting at $34,160 MSRP*
For better city fuel efficiency and a lower price, you'll want to choose the Tacoma SR5 and if power and towing performance are your top priorities, we recommend the Tacoma TRD Sport.
The most striking thing about this model is the special graphics package reminiscent of the original 4Runner. We don't expect any interior improvements to 4Runner models for the 2023 model year.
Is a Ford Explorer bigger than a Toyota 4Runner? ›Since the Ford Explorer is much wider than the Toyota 4Runner, finding a wide enough spot in a parking lot may be a bit more challenging. For some people, bigger is better. If that's the case for you, then you'll be happier with the Ford Explorer, which is slightly longer than the Toyota 4Runner.